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Abstract Number: 2695

B-cell depletion and lymphoid follicle disruption upon different B-cell depleting agents

Carlo Tur1, Markus Eckstein2, Laura Bucci1, Janina Auth3, Christina Bergmann1, Simon Rauber4, Melanie Hagen1, Danae-Mona Nöthling1, Sebastian Böltz1, Andreas Wirsching1, Filippo Fagni5, Giulia Corte6, Panagiotis Garantziotis1, Jule Taubmann7, jochen wacker1, Andreas Ramming8, Maria Antonietta D'Agostino9, Arndt Hartmann10, Fabian Müller11, Andreas Mackensen12, Ricardo Grieshaber-Bouyer13, Georg Schett14, Aline Bozec1 and Maria Gabriella Raimondo1, 1Department of Medicine 3 - Rheumatology and Immunology, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität (FAU) Erlangen-Nürnberg and Uniklinikum Erlangen, Erlangen, Germany, 2Institute of Pathology and Comprehensive Cancer Center EMN, Friedrich-Alexander- Universität (FAU) Erlangen-Nürnberg and Uniklinikum Erlangen, Erlangen, Germany, 3Department of Medicine 3 - Rheumatology and Immunology, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität (FAU) Erlangen-Nürnberg and Uniklinikum Erlangen, Erlangen, Bayern, Germany, 4Uniklinikum Erlangen, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg, Germany, Erlangen, Bayern, Germany, 5Department of Medicine 3 - Rheumatology and Immunology, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg and University Hospital Erlangen, Erlangen, Bayern, Germany, 6- Department of Medicine 3 - Rheumatology and Immunology, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg and Uniklinikum Erlangen, Erlangen, Germany, Erlangen, Germany, 7Department of Medicine 3 - Rheumatology and Immunology, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg and University Hospital Erlangen, Erlangen, Germany, 8Department of Internal Medicine 3, Rheumatology & Immunology, Friedrich-Alexander-University (FAU) & Universitätsklinikum Erlangen, Erlangen, Germany, 9Division of Rheumatology and Clinical Immunology - Università Cattolica del Sacro Cuore, Fondazione Policlinico Universitario A. Gemelli IRCCS, Rome, Italy, 10Institute of Pathology and Comprehensive Cancer Center EMN, Friedrich-Alexander- Universität (FAU) Erlangen-Nürnberg and Uniklinikum Erlangen, Erlangen, Bayern, Germany, 11University Hospital of Erlangen, Erlangen, Germany, 12Department of Medicine 5 - Hematology and Oncology, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg (FAU) and Uniklinikum Erlangen, Erlangen, Germany, 13University Hospital Erlangen, Erlangen, Germany, 14Uniklinikum Erlangen, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg, Germany, Erlangen, Germany

Meeting: ACR Convergence 2025

Keywords: autoimmune diseases, B-Cell Targets, B-Lymphocyte, Systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), Ultrasound

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Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2025

Title: Abstracts: Systemic Lupus Erythematosus – Treatment II (2693–2698)

Session Type: Abstract Session

Session Time: 12:00PM-12:15PM

Background/Purpose: Advanced protein-based therapies targeting B-cells, including glycoengineered CD20 monoclonal antibody obinutuzumab (OBI) and the CD19/CD3 T-cell engager blinatumumab (BLI), show promise for managing severe autoimmune diseases (AIDs). These innovative agents are believed to offer more effective B-cell depletion compared to rituximab (RTX), potentially enabling the elimination of B-cells within affected tissues.

Methods: We performed sequential US-guided inguinal lymph node (LN) biopsies before and after OBI-, BLI-, RTX- and CD19 chimeric antigen receptor T-cell treatment (CAR) in AID patients. Immunohistochemistry (IHC) staining was performed to quantify the number of B cells, plasma cells, follicular dendritic cells (FDCs), follicular T helper cells (TFH), proliferating germinal centre B cells, T cells and macrophages.

Results: Baseline and follow-up LN biopsies from 24 AID patients (7 SLE, 7 SSc, 4 Idiopathic Inflammatory Myositis [IIM], 6 RA) were analysed. Four patients received OBI (3 SLE, 1 IIM), 4 BLI (4 RA), 4 RTX (2 IIM, 2 RA) and 12 CAR (4 SLE, 7 SSc, 1 IIM).Peripheral blood B-cell depletion occurred in all but one BLI-treated patient. IHC quantification of B cells in LNs by CD19 and CD20 staining was performed. In all 12 CAR-treated patients, B cells were completely depleted (p-value for CD19+ and CD20+ cell before vs after CAR = 0.0005). In contrast, in all but one (OBI-treated) patients, B cells were not depleted. OBI showed robust (CD20+: -92%; CD19+: -96%) LN reduction of B-cells. Reduction was less pronounced in BLI-treated patients (CD20+: -69%; CD19+: -47%) and RTX- treated patients (CD20+: -86%; CD19+: -86%). CD138+ plasmablast/plasma depletion was incomplete across all treatments: CAR -59%, OBI -54%, RTX -32% and BLI -7%.Changes in the follicular structure in the LNs were also assessed, including the number of CD23+ FDCs, PD-1+ TFH cells and the proliferation rate in the follicles (Ki67+) before and after treatment. These data were integrated into a combined B-cell compartment architecture score (score range 0 – 9). In all CAR-treated patients the follicular LN architecture was completely disrupted (median B-cell compartment score post-treatment [IQR]: 0.0 [0 – 0]). Among patients treated with protein-based B-cell depleting agents, only one (OBI-treated) exhibited dissolution of the follicular architecture in the LNs, while all others retained some degree of follicular structure. In OBI-treated patients the median [IQR] B-cell compartment score was 4.5 [0.75 – 6.75], in the BLI-treated patients 5.5 [1.75 – 7.75] and RTX- treated patients 4.5 [2.25 – 7.5], all showing maintained follicular structures (Figure 1). Neither T-cell nor macrophages numbers were affected by any of the B-cell targeted treatment agents. Complete depletion was associated with stable drug-free remission, while incomplete depletion required re-treatment with immunomodulatory drugs.

Conclusion: Protein-based B-cell depletion reduces but rarely deplete B cells in LNs leaving the follicular architecture intact and being associated with disease recurrence, whereas CAR ensures consistent full B-cell depletion and follicular structural disruption enabling sustained remission.

Supporting image 1Heatmap scoring of follicular dendritic cell (FDC) score, germinal centre proliferation score (GC proliferation score) and the T follicular helper cell score (TFH score) for each treatment.


Disclosures: C. Tur: Sanofi, 2; M. Eckstein: None; L. Bucci: None; J. Auth: None; C. Bergmann: Kyverna Therapeutics, Inc., 5; S. Rauber: None; M. Hagen: None; D. Nöthling: None; S. Böltz: None; A. Wirsching: None; F. Fagni: None; G. Corte: None; P. Garantziotis: None; J. Taubmann: None; j. wacker: None; A. Ramming: Boehringer-Ingelheim, 2, Johnson & Johnson, 2, MoonLake Immunotherapeutics AG, 2, 5, Novartis Pharma GmbH, 2, UCB, 2; M. D'Agostino: Bristol-Myers Squibb(BMS), 5; A. Hartmann: None; F. Müller: AbbVie/Abbott, 6, ArgoBIO, 2, AstraZeneca, 2, 6, Beigene, 6, Bristol-Myers Squibb(BMS), 2, 5, 6, CRISPR Therapeutics, 2, EcoR1, 2, Incyte, 6, Janssen, 2, 6, Kite/Gilead, 2, 5, 6, Merck/MSD, 6, Miltenyi, 2, 6, Novartis, 2, 6, Pfizer, 6, Sobi, 2, 6, Takeda, 6; A. Mackensen: None; R. Grieshaber-Bouyer: AstraZeneca, 1, Candid Therapeutics, 1, Cullinan Therapeutics, 1, Eli Lilly, 6; G. Schett: Cabaletta, 6, Eli Lilly, 6, Janssen, 6, Kyverna, 6, Novartis, 6, UCB, 6; A. Bozec: None; M. Raimondo: UCB, 6.

To cite this abstract in AMA style:

Tur C, Eckstein M, Bucci L, Auth J, Bergmann C, Rauber S, Hagen M, Nöthling D, Böltz S, Wirsching A, Fagni F, Corte G, Garantziotis P, Taubmann J, wacker j, Ramming A, D'Agostino M, Hartmann A, Müller F, Mackensen A, Grieshaber-Bouyer R, Schett G, Bozec A, Raimondo M. B-cell depletion and lymphoid follicle disruption upon different B-cell depleting agents [abstract]. Arthritis Rheumatol. 2025; 77 (suppl 9). https://acrabstracts.org/abstract/b-cell-depletion-and-lymphoid-follicle-disruption-upon-different-b-cell-depleting-agents/. Accessed .
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